Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission
Public Hearing
January 20, 2000
Commission Hearing RoomTexas Parks & Wildlife Department Headquarters Complex
4200 Smith School Road
Austin, TX 78744
7 BE IT REMEMBERED that on the 20th day of 8 January, 2000, there came on to be heard matters 9 under the regulatory authority of the Parks and 10 Wildlife Commission of Texas, in the Commission 11 hearing room of the Texas Parks and Wildlife 12 Headquarters complex, Austin, Travis County, 13 Texas, beginning at 9:28 a.m., to wit: 14 15 APPEARANCES: THE PARKS AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION: 16 Lee M. Bass, Fort Worth, Texas, Chairman 17 Dick W. Heath, Carrollton, Texas (absent) Nolan Ryan, Alvin, Texas 18 Ernest Angelo, Jr., Midland, Texas John Avila, Jr., Fort Worth, Texas 19 Carol E. Dinkins, Houston, Texas Alvin L. Henry, Houston, Texas 20 Katharine Armstrong Idsal, Dallas, Texas Mark E. Watson, Jr., San Antonio, Texas 21 THE PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT: 22 Andrew H. Sansom, Executive Director, and other personnel of the Parks and Wildlife 23 Department. 24 25 .0002 1 OTHER APPEARANCES: 2 Ellis Gilleland, P.O. Box 9001, Austin, Texas, 3 78766, representing Texas-Animals; 4 Pablo Avila, County Judge, Zavala County, Crystal City, Texas, 78839; 5 John Fain, 717 West Main, Arlington, Texas, 6 representing Arlington Parks & Recreation; 7 Robert L. Hall, Jr., 201 Airport Road, Drawer H, Anahuac, Texas, 77514, representing Chambers 8 County, Texas; 9 Marc Maxwell, 125 South Davis, Sulphur Springs, Texas, 75482, representing the City of 10 Sulphur Springs; 11 Tom Donnelly, Hallettsville, Texas, 77964, representing the City of Halletsville; 12 Alberto Gonzales, 1503 North Seventh Avenue, 13 Crystal City, Texas, 78839, representing Crystal City Independent School District; 14 Charles Johnson, County Judge, 103 North 15 Fifth, Carrizo Springs, Texas, 78834, representing County of Dimmit; 16 John Davis, representing Urban Wildlife 17 Program-Outreach and Output; 18 Pat Mercado-Allinger, P.O. Box 12276, Austin, Texas, 78711, representing Texas Historical 19 Commission; 20 Elton Prewitt, 7701 North Lamar, Suite 104, Austin, Texas, 78752, representing Texas 21 Archeological Society and Council of Texas Archeologists. 22 23 24 25 .0003 1 JANUARY 20, 2000 2 *-*-*-*-* 3 PUBLIC HEARING 4 *-*-*-*-* 5 CHAIRMAN BASS: Good morning. We'll 6 try to get underway here. Sorry for a little 7 slow start this morning. 8 To get the meeting going, would you 9 please read our opening statement, Mr. Sansom. 10 MR. SANSOM: Mr. Chairman, a public 11 notice of this meeting containing all items on 12 the proposed agenda has been filed in the office 13 of the Secretary State, as required by Chapter 14 551 of the Government Code. This is referred to 15 as the Open Meetings Law. And I would like for 16 the action to be noted in the official record of 17 the meeting. 18 Ladies and gentlemen, as you know, 19 the Chairman is in charge of this meeting. And 20 today, as usual, I will be assisting him in the 21 conduct of the meeting as kind of 22 sergeant-at-arms. 23 We have sign-up cards out at the 24 table in the hall for anyone who wishes to 25 speak. And if you want to speak, you need to .0004 1 sign up, because the Chairman will call your name 2 from the cards one at a time. 3 Each person who has signed a card 4 will be able to come forward and speak at the 5 podium one at a time. When your name is called, 6 please come forward, state your name and who you 7 represent, if someone other than yourself. 8 He may also, depending on the issue, 9 call the next person in line. So if you could be 10 prepared at the back of the room, then the 11 meeting will move more quickly. 12 Everyone who wishes to speak and has 13 signed a card will have three minutes to state 14 your comments and issues. I'll keep track of the 15 time using this little traffic light here, and 16 notify you when your three minutes are up. Your 17 time will be extended if a commissioner has a 18 question for you. If the commissioners are 19 discussing an issue among themselves, that time 20 will not be counted against you, either. 21 It's important that you understand 22 that we -- that it's very critical to us that you 23 be courteous in your comments; that you show a 24 proper respect not only for the commissioners and 25 our staff but for the other members of the .0005 1 audience as well. I know you will. And I 2 appreciate all of you being here, because we do 3 want to hear your comments. 4 If you have written materials you 5 would like to submit, then please give them to 6 Ms. Estrada here, who is on my right, and she 7 will make sure that the commissioners get them. 8 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 9 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you, 10 Mr. Sansom. First order of business will be 11 approval of the minutes from our previous 12 meeting, which has been distributed to the 13 Commission prior to this. Are there any 14 comments? 15 COMMISSIONER DINKINS: Mr. Chairman, 16 I just found one on page 36, line 23, to make 17 "receive" past tense. 18 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you. I 19 appreciate you catching that. Any other 20 comments? 21 With that amendment, the Chair would 22 entertain a motion. 23 COMMISSIONER ANGELO: So moved. 24 CHAIRMAN BASS: A second? 25 COMMISSIONER WATSON: Second. .0006 1 CHAIRMAN BASS: The Chair has a 2 second. All in favor? Any opposed? 3 (Motion passed unanimously.) 4 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you very much. 5 The second order of business is the 6 acceptance of gifts, which have also been 7 previously distributed. Primarily it deals with 8 Rainbow Trout this time around. Any comments or 9 a motion for approval of the acceptance of 10 gifts? 11 COMMISSIONER DINKINS: So moved. 12 COMMISSIONER HENRY: Second. 13 CHAIRMAN BASS: Motion then is 14 second. All in favor? Opposed? 15 (Motion passed unanimously.) 16 CHAIRMAN BASS: Motion carries. 17 Thank you 18 TPWD DONATIONS OVER $500 19 Name of Donor: HAAS Outdoors, Inc., Mossy Oak Description: 6 coats, pants, shirts, and caps 20 Purpose of Donation: Third Annual Dream Hunt 21 Name of Donor: Oquirrh Productions, LC Description: The Hunting Game, CD ROM 22 Purpose of Donation: Hunter Education Training 23 Name of Donor: Alpha Leak Detection & Pipeline Description: Diesel fuel and pump rental 24 Purpose of Donation: To provide water on 2,000 acres of Murphree 25 .0007 1 Name of Donor: Will Kirkpatrick Description: CASH 2 Purpose of Donation: Catch and live release 3 Name of Donor: City of Corpus Christi, Texas Description: CASH 4 Purpose of Donation: Removal of Hyacinth, Lake Corpus Christi 5 Name of Donor: Lake Fork Area Merchants 6 Coun-Tour Fund Description: CASH 7 Purpose of Donation: Lake Fork Tournament Survey 8 Name of Donor: City of Lubbock, Texas Description: CASH 9 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 10 Name of Donor: City Public Service Description: CASH 11 Purpose of Donation: Survey- Braunig & Calaveras 12 Name of Donor: City of Denison Description: CASH 13 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 14 Name of Donor: Randall Word Description: CASH 15 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 16 Name of Donor: City of Canton Description: CASH 17 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 18 Name of Donor: City of Duncanville Description: CASH 19 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 20 Name of Donor: Texarkana Description: CASH 21 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 22 Name of Donor: Pittsburg Description: CASH 23 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 24 Name of Donor: Lamesa Kidfish Description: CASH 25 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout .0008 1 Name of Donor: W.O.R.D. Description: CASH 2 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 3 Name of Donor: Jack County Description: CASH 4 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 5 Name of Donor: City of Cleburne Description: CASH 6 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 7 Name of Donor: Cox East Texas Description: CASH 8 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 9 Name of Donor: City of Lamesa Description: CASH 10 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 11 Name of Donor: City of New Braunfels Description: CASH 12 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 13 Name of Donor: City of Victoria Description: CASH 14 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 15 Name of Donor: City of Bandera Description: CASH 16 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 17 Name of Donor: City of Wichita Falls Description: CASH 18 Purpose of Donation: Rainbow Trout 19 Name of Donor: Friends of Neasloney Description: CASH 20 Purpose of Donation: Hunter Safety and Youth Shooting Event 21 TOTAL: $116,105.75 22 23 CHAIRMAN BASS: Mr. Sansom, would 24 you please do the presentation retirement and 25 service awards. .0009 1 MR. SANSOM: Mr. Chairman, if you 2 could please join me at the podium. It's always 3 kind of a bittersweet occasion when we have 4 colleagues who are leaving the department as 5 retirement. So we wish them very well. 6 Today we have two retirements. Jose 7 Esparza has been a game warden at Texas Parks and 8 Wildlife for 25 years. He has been stationed 9 during that entire period in San Antonio. He's 10 been named officer of the year there and he's had 11 a lot of experiences. 12 Normally we think of the warden as 13 an individual who primarily operates out in the 14 countryside. But in urban areas, as well, there 15 are plenty of things to keep our guys busy. 16 Jose actually lost his thumb one 17 time in an incident involving a mountain lion. 18 He was involved in the case of the famous Hill 19 Country buck that now hangs in Hill Country 20 Village. He's very, very involved in 21 institutions like the FFA and 4H, and he's the 22 trail boss of Mesquite. Please recognize, 23 retiring now with 25 years of service, Jose 24 Esparza from law enforcement, Game Warden V. 25 (Applause; photographs taken.) .0010 1 MR. SANSOM: Through the years, as 2 we have continued to automate our system, now 3 linking up our state parks, particularly for 4 license sales and data and cash flow through our 5 system, the burden of that has fallen on the 6 administrative technicians in the Parks. 7 Today we have the honor of 8 recognizing, after 21 years of service, retiring 9 administrative technician from Cleburne State 10 Park, having come to Parks and Wildlife to work 11 there in 1979, Brenda J. Starns. 12 (Applause; photographs taken.) 13 MR. SANSOM: Well, I don't know 14 whether any of you have been to Fort Griffin. I 15 hope you have, because one of the things that you 16 can see there in the summer is that if you go up 17 to Fort Griffin and go down to the campground, 18 there will be an individual at the campfire at 19 probably 6:30 in the morning who may one day be 20 wearing a buffalo robe; the next day he may be in 21 his buckskins. He's making coffee and the kids 22 are coming out of the tents and gathering around 23 him so that he can explain to them the history of 24 the area, the great lore and many stories of the 25 buffalo hunters in that great period of our .0011 1 history. 2 Lester Galbreath is receiving a 3 service award today for 30 years at Parks and 4 Wildlife. He started at Dinosaur Valley. He's 5 been at Lake Whitney, and he is the steward of 6 the official Texas Longhorn Herd. 7 Please recognize, for 30 years of 8 service, Lester Galbreath from Fort Griffin State 9 Park. 10 (Applause; photographs taken.) 11 MR. SANSOM: I have personally known 12 this, our next honoree, for -- since he was in 13 college. And he I were acquainted at Texas Tech 14 more than 30 years ago. Larry Hutcheson has 15 worked here for all of that time. He came to 16 Parks and Wildlife in 1969 as a member of the 17 newly organized Interpretation and Exhibits 18 Branch. 19 As all of you know who have enjoyed 20 and visited our state parks, the interpretation 21 of the resources of Texas, be they cultural or 22 natural, is a critical part of our mission and 23 what we offer. 24 Barry has been involved in exhibit 25 projects at Palo Duro, Port Isabel, Caddo Lake, .0012 1 Franklin Mountains, McKinney Falls. He's 2 participated in master planning projects and 3 preservation plans from places like the Maxey 4 House, the Fulton Mansion, Brazos Bend and 5 Seminole Canyon. 6 He's been involved with large 7 artifact projects such as the stagecoach at 8 Fanthorp Inn, the living history farm which we 9 will open on March 2nd at 10 Washington-on-the-Brazos, and that big, blue ship 11 that's at San Jacinto Battleground. 12 Please recognize, after 30 years of 13 service, Barry Hutchison, a planner from the 14 State Parks Division here in Austin. 15 (Applause; photographs taken.) 16 MR. SANSOM: We have discussed, over 17 this Commission meeting, the acquisition of 18 additional lands in the Lower Rio Grande Valley 19 for the purpose of preserving habitat for 20 white-winged dove. 21 Gary Waggerman began working at 22 Parks and Wildlife on the Statewide Morning Dove 23 Project in 1967. He left for a little while to 24 go to work for the Army. But for most of that -- 25 of his 30 years here, he has been involved in .0013 1 white-winged dove. 2 He's identified and helped acquire 3 over 90 percent of the land that we have acquired 4 throughout the Valley for white-winged dove 5 habitat. That's nearly -- it's 5100 acres, and 6 now known as the Las Palomas Wildlife Management 7 Area. That's where I first began to work with 8 Gary when I was involved in the acquisition of -- 9 part of the department. 10 Gary and his colleagues initiated 11 and pioneered the planning of native brush to 12 restore habitat, and he has personally been 13 responsible for doing that on over 800 acres of 14 former farmland in the Valley. 15 He's known throughout the country 16 for his expertise in this area, and he has 17 authored and coauthored papers on censusing, 18 brush planting, chachalacas, white-tipped doves, 19 and many, many other wildlife issues. He's now 20 in San Marcos, moving north along with the 21 white-wings, to expand the survey to the 22 remainder of Texas. 23 Please recognize, with 30 years of 24 service, Gary Waggerman from the Wildlife 25 Division in San Marcos. .0014 1 (Applause; photographs taken.) 2 MR. SANSOM: When I was reviewing 3 this morning the accomplishments and experiences 4 of Glenda Moore, who is in Administrative 5 Resources, having worked there 25 years, it's a 6 kind of an astonishing picture of what has 7 happened in information technology since 1974. 8 When Glenda came to work at Parks 9 and Wildlife in the early '70s, basically what 10 she was doing was transferring data from paper, 11 such as letters and other forms, to cards for 12 computer input. 13 In a few years she began to work on 14 a system where that data was transferred from 15 cards to tape. And she transferred to Data 16 Control in 1982, where we began to operate the 17 mainframe. And she, in fact, was an operator. 18 In 1988 she assisted in 19 administering the project to create a LAN, which 20 we call the Local Area Network, in our building, 21 which connects personal computers throughout the 22 system. In '95 she moved on to the -- what we 23 call the Desktop Computer Services, and today she 24 is the supervisor of that group. 25 So she has followed the .0015 1 technological revolution that we've all 2 experienced from -- from basically from cards to 3 microchips. And over that 25 years she has 4 provided a tremendous service to Texas Parks and 5 Wildlife. Network specialist from here in 6 Austin, Glenda Moore, with 25 years of service. 7 (Applause.) 8 MR. SANSOM: Must be a Y2K thing. 9 Kenneth Moore. I hope some of you 10 have been out to Blanco. Blanco is one of our 11 most beautiful and lovely of original parks 12 constructed in the Hill Country and built by the 13 CCC. 14 Kenneth went to work there in '74 as 15 a park ranger. He was promoted to a Ranger II 16 and he became a Ranger IV today. And he has 17 worked all of his 25 years at Blanco State Park. 18 Please recognize Kenneth Moore, 25 19 years of service. 20 (Applause; photographs taken.) 21 MR. SANSOM: Finally, just a few 22 miles from Blanco, at Johnson City, Michael Burow 23 has been with Parks and Wildlife for 20 years. 24 He started at San Jacinto on the Battleground and 25 transferred to Stephen F. Austin in 1980, where .0016 1 he was a utility operator. 2 He became a Park Ranger IV in 1998. 3 And after 18 years at Stephen F. Austin, he was 4 promoted to a Conservation and Outdoor Recreation 5 Specialist at Pedernales Falls State Park, where 6 he is today the assistant park manager after 20 7 years. 8 Michael Burow, from State Parks, 9 with 20 years of service. 10 (Applause; photographs taken.) 11 MR. SANSOM: Mr. Chairman, each year 12 the Fisheries Administrators Section of the 13 American Fisheries Society recognizes outstanding 14 sportfish restoration projects that are submitted 15 from fishery management agencies across the 16 country. 17 These sportfish restoration projects 18 are funded with dollars collected from excise 19 taxes paid on fishing tackle and equipment - this 20 is known as the Wallop-Breaux Fund - and motor 21 boat fuel as well. The dollars are distributed 22 back to the States on a cost-share basis for use 23 in projects and management activities designed to 24 improve sport fishing and boating opportunities. 25 These funds represent a significant portion of .0017 1 the budget for most state fisheries, programs 2 including ours. 3 And now I would like to turn the 4 microphone over to Phil Durocher, who has a 5 special introduction that he would like to make 6 to you. Phil? 7 MR. DUROCHER: Thank you, Andy. 8 Mr. Chairman, members of the 9 Commission, I would like and I'm honored to 10 introduce to you today Mr. Robin Knox. He's a 11 sportfish program manager with the Colorado 12 Division of Natural Resources Wildlife Division. 13 Robin is real active in the American 14 Sport Fishing Association and American Fishery 15 Society. He's one of the leading experts on 16 whirling disease, which as you know, probably 17 know, affects a lot of trout in the western part 18 of the United States. And he's now serving as 19 president of the administrative section of the 20 American Fishery Society. So I would like to 21 introduce Mr. Robin Knox. 22 (Applause.) 23 MR. KNOX: Thank you, Phil. 24 Mr. Chairman, members of the 25 Commission, I'll try and keep my remarks to three .0018 1 minutes so I don't get buzzed out of here. 2 The fishery administrators, much 3 like Mr. Durocher here, have the responsibility 4 for managing fishery programs in the 50 states of 5 the United States and then also on coastal marine 6 fisheries. 7 Each year we try to recognize 8 projects that represent exemplary models of what 9 can be accomplished through partnerships with -- 10 between state and federal agencies, private 11 industry, local communities, and interested 12 citizens. 13 Each year we have three categories 14 of awards. The first category is sportfish 15 restoration and management; the second category 16 is outstanding sport fishery research; and the 17 third category is angular and aquatic education. 18 In 1999 the Texas Freshwater Fishery 19 Center was submitted as an applicant for the 20 outstanding angular and aquatic education 21 project. Let me tell you, this project won hands 22 down. 23 In the literature that I received 24 from Texas, there was a quote that said, "Texas 25 governor George Bush Junior summed up public .0019 1 perception of the new facility in November of 2 1966 -- excuse me, 1996, when he presided over 3 the grand opening and exclaimed, "'This place is 4 really cool!'" 5 Well, let me tell you, I got to go 6 to the Texas Freshwater Fishery Center last 7 April, when Mr. Durocher hosted the spring 8 meeting of the Fishery Administrator Section, and 9 I have to admit, that place is really cool. 10 On behalf of the American Fishery 11 Society, which represents over 7,000 fishery 12 scientists throughout North America, I would like 13 to present to the Texas Parks and Wildlife 14 Department, the Commission, and the Inland 15 Fisheries Branch, the Fishery Administrator 16 Section Sportfish Restoration Award for 1999, 17 Angular and Aquatic Education Project, the Texas 18 Freshwater Fishery Center. 19 So if I could have Phil and Mr. Bass 20 come up here, please? 21 (Applause; photographs taken.) 22 MR. SANSOM: Ladies and gentlemen, 23 thankfully, Glenda was helping someone at her -- 24 fix their computer or figure out how to get into 25 e-mail or something. And she is here. So .0020 1 congratulations. 2 (Applause; photographs taken.) 3 CHAIRMAN BASS: He said lots of nice 4 things about you. 5 AGENDA ITEM NO. 1: ACTION - CONSENT 6 AGENDA ITEMS. 7 CHAIRMAN BASS: All right. At this 8 point I would like to ask for approval of our 9 agenda. 10 Item 11, land acquisition in Jack 11 County, is eligible for the consent agenda. It's 12 been previously discussed in open session and is 13 a return visitor to our agenda. And as I say, it 14 is eligible for consent agenda. And that's our 15 only item of the day that is -- the Chair would 16 entertain a motion to approve our agenda, with 17 Item 11 being on the consent agenda. 18 COMMISSIONER DINKINS: So moved. 19 COMMISSIONER ANGELO: Second. 20 CHAIRMAN BASS: The motion is 21 seconded. All in favor? Opposed? 22 (Motion passed unanimously.) 23 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you. And 24 which brings us to our first action item, which 25 is approval of the consent agenda, the Item 11, .0021 1 Jack County, which nobody has signed up to speak 2 on today. 3 The Chair would entertain a motion 4 to approve the consent agenda. 5 COMMISSIONER AVILA: So moved. 6 COMMISSIONER ANGELO: Second. 7 CHAIRMAN BASS: Motion is seconded. 8 All in favor? Opposed? 9 (Motion passed unanimously.) 10 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you very 11 much. 12 AGENDA ITEM NO. 2: BRIEFING - LOCAL PARKS 13 AND INDOOR RECREATION GRANTS REVIEW. 14 CHAIRMAN BASS: At this point we'll 15 have a briefing item on Local Parks and Indoor 16 Recreation Grant Review. Mr. Hogsett, if you 17 would please -- 18 (WHEREUPON, a briefing 19 item was presented to the 20 Commissioners, after which, 21 the following proceedings 22 were had:) 23 AGENDA ITEM NO. 3: ACTION - LOCAL PARK 24 FUNDING. 25 CHAIRMAN BASS: Local park funding. .0022 1 MR. HOGSETT: Well, I could go ahead 2 and start by telling you that outdoor recreation 3 grants, we have received applications from 34 4 sponsors requesting $13,965,092 in matching 5 funds. 6 We have made site visits of all 7 those 34 applications. The applications are 8 scored and rank ordered. You can find that rank 9 order in Exhibit A of your Commission item. 10 The funds that are currently 11 available are $6,486,781. And we're recommending 12 the first 15 projects. You will notice in the 13 recommendation that the amount that we're 14 recommending for the last project, the 15 Burkburnett project, is slightly less than the 16 total request. That's because we simply don't 17 have enough money in the account currently to 18 fund that project at full funding. 19 However, we are asking you to allow 20 us the authority, should we realize savings in 21 other projects, which is quite common during the 22 fiscal year, that we will then amend that project 23 to give them full funding. 24 And I'd be glad to answer any 25 questions you might have about the agenda. .0023 1 CHAIRMAN BASS: We have some public 2 comment on this agenda item, which I would like 3 to call at this time. 4 First I would like to call on 5 Mr. Avila, a county judge from Zavala County. If 6 you come forward, please, give your comments at 7 this time. 8 And if John Fain from Arlington 9 would be prepared to speak next. 10 MR. AVILA: Good morning, 11 commissioners. My name is Pablo Avila. I'm the 12 County Judge for Zavala County. Crystal City is 13 our county seat. 14 And we have an application before 15 you that ranked number 11 in recommended 16 funding. It's a project that we have submitted 17 twice. We feel that it is a project that will be 18 very helpful to the adults and children of our 19 community. It's a recreation project that we 20 have filed on behalf of the Crystal City School 21 District. And shortly we will have our 22 superintendent speak to you in more detail. 23 But I am kindly requesting that you 24 consider approving our application. Thank you 25 very much. .0024 1 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you very much, 2 Mr. Avila. 3 John Fain from Arlington. 4 And Robert Hall from Chambers 5 County, if you would be prepared to speak next. 6 MR. FAIN: Thank you Mr. Chairman, 7 commissioners. 8 My name is John Fain, with the 9 Arlington Parks and Recreation Department. And I 10 just wanted to take a few minutes to thank Texas 11 Parks and Wildlife Department, particularly the 12 grants and aids staff, for what has been a 13 wonderful relationship over the years. 14 I've been with Arlington now for 15 over ten years and have worked with Tim and his 16 staff on a number of projects. And we've 17 received just many, many awards from the 18 Commission. And while I can't say that a lot of 19 those projects wouldn't have gone forward without 20 your help, I can say very definitely that you 21 just made those jobs a whole, whole lot better 22 for us. 23 So thank you to all of you, and 24 particularly Tim. I'd like to present this token 25 from the citizens of Arlington to the .0025 1 Grants-in-Aid people. Thank you. 2 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you very 3 much. 4 (Applause.) 5 CHAIRMAN BASS: Robert Hall. 6 If Marc of Maxwell would be prepared 7 to speak next. 8 MR. HALL: Thank you, sir. I'm 9 Robert Hall, assistant county engineer for 10 Chambers County. I come on behalf of the 11 commissioners and the county judge to thank you 12 for your consideration for our boat ramps 13 project. 14 We understand at this time that 15 there are funds that are going to be used for 16 other infrastructures that you have, to try to 17 keep those updated, and that we might be on -- be 18 available to receive funds later. 19 Well, this is our greatest asset we 20 have in Chambers County, is the use of our 21 wetlands, our fishing and our hunting. And these 22 boat ramps could be greatly used. 23 And this would be on Corps of 24 Engineers property. And it will also be -- 25 make -- open that property to not only to .0026 1 boating and hunting and fishing, but also to the 2 birds, bird watchers of our State. Thank you 3 very much. 4 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you. 5 Marc Maxwell from Sulphur Springs, 6 Texas. 7 And Tom Donnelly, if you would be 8 prepared to speak next. 9 MR. MAXWELL: Mr. Chairman, 10 commissioners, I am Marc Maxwell, City Manager of 11 Sulphur Springs, Texas. 12 I just wanted to very briefly say 13 thank for you this grants program. As you know, 14 the City is endeavoring to undertake a very 15 ambitious park project. When we're done, we 16 believe we'll have a very well-rounded park which 17 will measure up to the mission of Texas Parks and 18 Wildlife, one that will serve not only our 19 citizens, but the citizens of Northeast Texas as 20 a whole. 21 So again, thank you. I would like 22 to also acknowledge the very competent help of 23 your staff, Mr. Hogsett and Elaine Dill. 24 This is our first time applying for 25 a grant at Texas Parks and Wildlife. And they .0027 1 have been, very, very patient with us in 2 answering our questions and helping us through 3 the process. So a big thank-you to them as 4 well. Thank you. 5 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you, 6 Mr. Maxwell. I appreciate you coming down. 7 Tom Donnelly from Hallettsville. 8 If Alberto Gonzales will be prepared 9 to speak next. 10 MR. DONNELLY: Mr. Chairman, 11 commissioners, my name is Tom Donnelly, City 12 Administer, Hallettsville, Texas. 13 It's my honor to be the first 14 citizen of Hallettsville and Lavaca County to say 15 thank you. Thank you to the Commission, to 16 Mr. Hogsett and his staff for their guidance and 17 assistance through this procedure. 18 Please be assured there will be 19 thousands and thousands of thank-yous to follow 20 from our citizens, as your funds and our local 21 matching funds are turned into much needed 22 facilities. Thank you. 23 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you for 24 coming. 25 Mr. Gonzales. .0028 1 And if Ellis Gilliland will be 2 prepared to speak next, please. 3 MR. GONZALES: Mr. Chairman, 4 commissioners, on behalf of Zavala County, 5 Crystal City Independent School District, and the 6 children of Crystal City - I represent them; I'm 7 the superintendent there - I'd like to thank the 8 Commission for their consideration of the 9 proposed project for our great community. 10 This grant will have a significant 11 and long-lasting impact for ourselves and future 12 generations. Our deepest appreciation is 13 extended to you, to Elaine Dill, Joel Seffel for 14 their technical assistance. 15 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you. 16 Mr. Gilliland, if you would come forward and 17 speak at this time. 18 MR. GILLILAND: I have some handouts 19 for the commissioners. 20 My name is Ellis Gilliland. I'm a 21 private citizen. I'm representing Texas Animals, 22 which is an Internet animal rights organization. 23 I'd like to address the second page 24 of the handout I just gave you. It concerns 25 Choke Canyon State Park. It says, "Game .0029 1 preserve. No firearms or hunting permitted." 2 I'd like to ask the Commission to 3 authorize funds for that park to take down that 4 sign because it is not a game preserve. And 5 obviously firearms are permitted, and hunting is 6 permitted every year. 7 It sounds like Vietnam now, 8 particularly that you have the duck hunting 9 coinciding with the deer hunting. When the deer 10 hunters stop firing in the morning, the duck 11 hunters continue all day long, with automatic 12 Browning fire. The deer hunters are only firing 13 single shots, for some reason or another, and 14 they pick up in the evening. There is no 15 wildlife viewing of any substance, which brings 16 me to the second comment. 17 The second comment is, on the first 18 page of the Choke Canyon State Park handout which 19 you publish, I ask you to allot funds so that 20 park could publish another handout, because that 21 handout is a fraud. It says "For wildlife 22 watching at its best." That is a fraud. It is 23 not true. It was, up until 1996. When you 24 authorized the hunting the last four years, '97, 25 '98, '99, and 2000, it is not the best wildlife .0030 1 watching. 2 So if you please would authorize the 3 funds for reprinting of the brochure and funds to 4 take down the sign that says "Game preserve. No 5 firearms," because it obviously is a shoot-em-up 6 event for the Texas yahoos to go and shoot their 7 automatic weapons and kill as many animals as 8 possible. Thank you. 9 CHAIRMAN BASS: We'll take your 10 comments under advisement, Mr. Gilliland. 11 There is no further public comment 12 on this agenda item. Is there any discussion 13 from the commission? The Chair would entertain a 14 motion. 15 COMMISSIONER RYAN: Move approval. 16 COMMISSIONER ANGELO: Make a motion. 17 CHAIRMAN BASS: Have a motion by 18 Commissioner Ryan and a second by Commissioner 19 Angelo. All in favor? Any opposed? Motion 20 carries. 21 (Motion passed unanimously.) 22 "Funding for projects listed in Exhibit A in 23 the amount of $6,468,781.00 is approved, as 24 described for individual projects in Exhibit B. 25 Individual project amounts may be adjusted to .0031 1 take advantage of savings in other fiscal year 2 2000 projects, as long as the overall total does 3 not exceed the amount available, and the 4 requirements of the grant program are met." 5 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you very 6 much. 7 Mr. Hogsett, you're up again. But I 8 will take a moment to say that it is nice to hear 9 repeated good things about people's experience 10 working with your staff. And I don't think it's 11 all just because they are walking away with 12 money. 13 MR. HOGSETT: Thank you very much. 14 CHAIRMAN BASS: I'm sure it helps. 15 It makes you a popular fellow. But it is nice to 16 hear good, positive feedback from the people that 17 work with you and how they create a positive 18 experience for those undergoing a process that is 19 not always fruitful for them. 20 MR. HOGSETT: And I'm grateful for a 21 wonderful staff. 22 CHAIRMAN BASS: Next item. 23 AGENDA ITEM NO. 4: ACTION - INDOOR RECREATION 24 GRANTS. 25 MR. HOGSETT: Again for the record, .0032 1 I'm Tim Hogsett, director of Recreation Grants 2 Program in the State Parks Division. 3 The next item is the proposed 4 funding for indoor recreation centers. We've 5 received for this review eight applications 6 requesting $3,359,500 in matching funds. These 7 were all of the applications which were received 8 by our July 31st, 1999 deadline. 9 Staff has reviewed all of the 10 applications. They are rank ordered in 11 descending order of priority. You can find that 12 rank order at your Exhibit A and individual 13 projects at Exhibit B. 14 You will note that the last project, 15 the Alamo Project, a similar situation as we had 16 with the outdoor projects. We have less than the 17 amount available to fully fund that project. 18 However, should we realize savings in other 19 projects, we would amend that project to offer 20 them full funding. They've been contacted and 21 they understand this recommendation and are fine 22 with it. 23 I'll go ahead and read the staff 24 recommendation into the record. "Funding for the 25 projects listed in Exhibit A in the amount of .0033 1 $3,325,000 is approved as described for 2 individual projects in Exhibit B. Individual 3 project amounts may be adjusted to take advantage 4 of savings in other fiscal year 2000 projects as 5 long as the overall total does not exceed the 6 amount available and all the requirements of the 7 grant program are met." 8 I'll be glad to answer any 9 questions. 10 CHAIRMAN BASS: Questions for our 11 public comment? We have three public comments 12 today. 13 Charles Johnson from Dimmit County, 14 if you would please come forward and speak to 15 us. And I would -- I'm sorry, you are the only 16 person on this item. The floor is yours. 17 MR. DIMMIT: Thank you, 18 Commissioner. Am I still limited to three 19 minutes, I guess? 20 Commissioners -- Mr. Chairman, 21 commissioners, my name is Charles Johnson, and I 22 am the county judge of Dimmit County and I bring 23 greetings from Dimmit County. And I want to 24 thank each of you for your support of this 25 project. .0034 1 I would also like to thank Tim 2 Hogsett and the staff, Elaine Dill and George 3 Logan who have worked with us. And I would also 4 like to thank my staff, Tracy Hill, who has 5 worked on this project. 6 This project is bringing our 7 community together, the city, the school and the 8 county. I know it seems difficult in these times 9 that we're living in. But it is a unique 10 opportunity for our community. 11 We also like -- we would like to 12 commend the Parks and Wildlife for the funding 13 for game wardens and supporting the law 14 enforcement efforts. Down in our neck of the 15 woods, we are hard -- we're spread a little thin 16 on law enforcement. And especially during the 17 deer season, we appreciate the special game 18 wardens that are there that are funded through 19 this agency. 20 It seems like the population is 21 growing in the State of Texas. And it's not only 22 true in the urban areas, but it's also true in 23 the rural areas, where we live. Dimmit County is 24 down there north of Laredo. And with NAFTA and 25 the truck traffic that's coming through, we're .0035 1 also seeing tourists, we're seeing snowbirds that 2 are coming down, and they are starting to like 3 Dimmit County. 4 We've got the Nueces River coming 5 through there. We would like to upgrade that and 6 make it amenable to their parking and staying a 7 little while. 8 But with that things are changing. 9 We're sort of experiencing a Renaissance in our 10 local history. This is bringing renewed interest 11 in what has happened in South Texas. We have had 12 a very colorful history, as I'm sure you're aware 13 of. And we are taking steps to preserve that. 14 And we would like to ask for your support on 15 that. 16 As a part of that, there is the 17 Camino Real de los Tejas, which has passed 18 through Dimmit and Zavala Counties. We're 19 neighbors to Zavala County, the gentleman who 20 spoke previously. And we would support your 21 efforts with the National Forestry Service to 22 promote that part of our history of our state, of 23 Texas. 24 And additionally, I know that with 25 the Senate Bill 1 planning that is taking place, .0036 1 the Parks and Wildlife has representation on the 2 Senate Bill 1 planning groups. And I would urge 3 you to protect our natural resources 4 aggressively. 5 Thank you, and may God bless you. 6 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you. 7 Appreciate you making the trip up here. Any 8 questions or comments on this agenda item? 9 I think yesterday we touched on the 10 fact that some of the plans that Mr. Hogsett and 11 his staff have in the works to create some 12 workshops and to publicize more widely some of 13 these programs. 14 We'll hopefully increase the pool of 15 applicants and help us to achieve even better 16 projects in the future. But this is a good group 17 of projects. 18 And I would entertain a motion to 19 approve the agenda item as proposed unless there 20 are other comments. 21 COMMISSIONER HENRY: So moved. 22 COMMISSIONER RYAN: Second. 23 CHAIRMAN BASS: A motion from Mr. 24 Henry, a second by Commissioner Ryan. All in 25 favor? Any opposed? .0037 1 (Motion passed unanimously.) 2 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you very 3 much. 4 "Funding for projects listed in Exhibit A in 5 the amount of $3,325,000.00 is approved, as 6 described for individual projects in Exhibit B. 7 Individual project amounts may be adjusted to 8 take advantage of savings in other fiscal year 9 2000 projects as long as the overall total does 10 not exceed the amount available, and the 11 requirements of the program are met." 12 AGENDA ITEM NO. 5: BRIEFING - URBAN WILDLIFE 13 PROGRAM - OUTREACH AND OUTPUT. 14 CHAIRMAN BASS: The next item of 15 business is a briefing item, Urban Wildlife 16 Program, Outreach and Output. 17 (WHEREUPON, a briefing 18 item was presented to the 19 Commissioners.) 20 AGENDA ITEM NO. 6: BRIEFING - OUTDOOR KIDS. 21 CHAIRMAN BASS: Our next item is 22 also a briefing item on Outdoor Kids. Dr. 23 McKinney. 24 (WHEREUPON, a briefing 25 item was presented to the .0038 1 Commissioners, after which, 2 the following proceedings 3 were had:) 4 AGENDA ITEM NO. 7: BRIEFING - HUECO TANKS 5 SHP PUBLIC USE PLAN. 6 CHAIRMAN BASS: All right. Walt 7 Dabney, if you'd come forward and do a briefing 8 item for us on Hueco Tanks, please. 9 (WHEREUPON, a briefing 10 item was presented to the 11 Commissioners, after which, 12 the following proceedings 13 were had:) 14 AGENDA ITEM NO. 8: ACTION - LAND ACQUISITION - 15 HIDALGO COUNTY. 16 CHAIRMAN BASS: The next item is an 17 action item, land acquisition, Hidalgo County. 18 Mr. Herring, please. 19 MR. HERRING: Good morning. My name 20 is Mike Herring, director of the department's 21 Land Conservation Program. 22 The property needed for the facility 23 development portion of the Weslaco component of 24 the World Birding Center is currently in private 25 ownership. The property is composed of three .0039 1 tracts, all under one ownership, which the owner 2 desires to sell as a unit. 3 Because of the owner's desire to 4 sell the tracts, the department solicited the 5 assistance of the Nature Conservancy to negotiate 6 and broker this transaction. 7 Tract 3, 3.15 acres, is a small 8 triangle needed for World Birding Center access 9 and buffer, which is proposed to be purchased by 10 the department. Purchase of Tract 3 is 11 contingent on the Nature Conservancy's successful 12 negotiations on Tract 1 and 2. 13 Staff proposes to utilize general 14 obligation bond funds authorized by legislative 15 appropriation to make this purchase. Recommend 16 the Commission adopt the motion as shown in your 17 agenda item. 18 CHAIRMAN BASS: Do you have a second 19 item on this, or is this one motion for the 20 entire piece? 21 MR. HERRING: This is one motion for 22 this piece. There will be a second item for 23 another piece in Hidalgo County. There are two 24 Hidalgo County items. 25 CHAIRMAN BASS: Yes, I see that. .0040 1 Mr. Bauer is doing the other one. 2 MR. HERRING: Yes. 3 CHAIRMAN BASS: This was discussed 4 in Executive Session of the Conservation 5 Committee and was recommended for consideration, 6 by the Board, in public session. Are there any 7 further comments, questions at this time? 8 COMMISSIONER ANGELO: Move 9 approval. 10 CHAIRMAN BASS: The Chair has a 11 motion and a second. All in favor? Opposed? 12 (Motion passed unanimously.) 13 "The Executive Director is authorized to take 14 all necessary steps to consummate the purchase of 15 the 3.15 acre tract in Hidalgo County for 16 inclusion in the Weslaco Unit of the World 17 Birding Center." 18 AGENDA ITEM NO. 9: ACTION - LAND 19 ACQUISITION - BASTROP COUNTY. 20 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you very much, 21 Mr. Herring. Would you now do your second item, 22 which is Bastrop County land acquisition? 23 MR. HERRING: As a result of 24 expansion work to the nine-hole golf course at 25 Bastrop State Park, the department has certain .0041 1 Houston Toad mitigation responsibilities. 2 The biological opinion issued by the 3 U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service requires that the 4 department maintain at least a thousand acres of 5 toad habitat in conservation status. 6 A 1,000-acre tract of land adjacent 7 to Bastrop State Park has been offered for sale 8 to the department. Fish and Wildlife Service has 9 given approval to accept the 1,000-acre tract as 10 compensation for the department's mitigation 11 responsibility, contingent on the implementation 12 of additional habitat improvements. 13 Additionally, federal land and water 14 conservation funds may be available for 15 assistance with this project in the near future. 16 Because of the landowner's desire to 17 consummate the purchase quickly, the department 18 requested the Nature Conservancy assist with 19 purchase and interim holding the property, 20 pending Commission approval and reimbursement. 21 Staff also recommends that the 22 Commission adopt the recommendation as shown in 23 your agenda item. 24 CHAIRMAN BASS: This item was also 25 discussed in the Executive Session of the .0042 1 Conservation Committee and recommended for 2 consideration. And if there are any questions or 3 comments, the Chair would entertain them at this 4 time. 5 COMMISSIONER WATSON: Motion. 6 COMMISSIONER ANGELO: Second. 7 CHAIRMAN BASS: Have a motion for 8 approval and a second. All in favor? Any 9 opposed? 10 (Motion passed unanimously.) 11 "The Executive Director is authorized to 12 take all necessary steps to consummate the 13 purchase of the 100 acre tract adjacent to 14 Bastrop State Park and to reimburse The 15 Nature Conservancy for its overhead and holding 16 costs." 17 "The Executive Director is further authorized 18 to utilize Land and Water Conservation Grant 19 Funds to reimburse 50 percent of the acquisition 20 costs for the 1000 acre Bastrop State Park 21 addition." 22 CHAIRMAN BASS: Thank you very much, 23 Mr. Herring. 24 MR. SANSOM: Mr. Chairman, if I 25 might comment. I would like to point out to .0043 1 you-all and the audience that this acquisition 2 will essentially double the size of Bastrop State 3 Park. It's a very, very diverse piece of 4 property that not only includes the remnants of 5 the Lost Pines, but some other ecosystem remnants 6 as well. It will provide an important habitat 7 for the Houston Toad and finish all mitigation 8 requirements that the department is under 9 obligation to in Bastrop County. 10 Further, I think it begins the 11 process of -- Bastrop County, as Travis County 12 has done -- commencing a period of time in which 13 endangered species will be a significant factor 14 in development. The acquisition of this tract, I 15 believe, gets all of that process off on the 16 right track in Bastrop County. So I appreciate 17 your action on this matter. 18 AGENDA ITEM NO. 10: ACTION - LAND 19 ACQUISITION - HIDALGO COUNTY. 20 CHAIRMAN BASS: Mr. Bauer, land 21 acquisition in Hidalgo County, also for us to 22 consider. 23 MR. BAUER: Good morning. I'm Jack 24 Bauer with the Land Conservation Program. The 25 Adams Unit of the Las Palomas Wildlife Management .0044 1 Area is a 65-acre brush tract near Weslaco, 2 managed for use by white-winged dove. 3 A 47.1-acre adjacent farm field has 4 been offered for sale. Our White-winged Dove 5 Program staff and the Las Palomas Wildlife 6 Management Area facility staff have been on the 7 tract and recommend habitat addition. 8 The proposed acquisition is 9 consistent with the White-winged Dove Program 10 management plan and meets Commission guidance for 11 expansion of existing facilities. 12 The property will undergo brush 13 restoration and be utilized in dove food 14 production. 15 Staff recommends the use of 16 white-winged dove stamp revenues to fund the 17 acquisition. Staff recommend the Parks and 18 Wildlife Commission adopt the following motion: 19 "The Executive Director is authorized to take 20 all steps necessary to acquire approximately 46.1 21 acres in Hidalgo County as an addition to the 22 Adams Unit of the Las Palomas Wildlife Management 23 Area." 24 Any questions? 25 CHAIRMAN BASS: Questions? A .0045 1 motion? 2 COMMISSIONER WATSON: So moved. 3 COMMISSIONER DINKINS: Second. 4 CHAIRMAN BASS: There is a motion 5 and a second. All in favor? Any opposed? 6 Motion carries. Thank you very much. 7 MR. BAUER: Thank you. 8 (Motion passed unanimously.) 9 "The Executive Director is authorized to take 10 all steps necessary to acquire approximately 46.1 11 acres in Hidalgo County as an addition to the 12 Adams Unit of the Las Palomas Wildlife Management 13 Area." 14 CHAIRMAN BASS: Let's see, that 15 brings us to, I believe, the conclusion of our 16 agenda. 17 Mr. Sansom, is there any business to 18 come before the Commission that you're aware of? 19 MR. SANSOM: No, sir. 20 CHAIRMAN BASS: In that case, we 21 will stand adjourned. Thank you very much. 22 We'll see you upstairs for lunch. 23 *-*-*-*-* 24 (HEARING ADJOURNED.) 25 *-*-*-*-* .0046 1 REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE 2 STATE OF TEXAS ) 3 COUNTY OF TRAVIS ) 4 5 I, MELODY RENEE DeYOUNG, a Certified Court 6 Reporter in and for the State of Texas, do hereby 7 certify that the above and foregoing 45 pages 8 constitute a full, true and correct transcript of 9 the minutes of the Texas Parks and Wildlife 10 Commission on JANUARY 20, 2000, in the Commission 11 hearing room of the Texas Parks and Wildlife 12 Headquarters Complex, Austin, Travis County, 13 Texas. 14 I FURTHER CERTIFY that a stenographic record 15 was made by me a the time of the public meeting 16 and said stenographic notes were thereafter 17 reduced to computerized transcription under my 18 supervision and control. 19 WITNESS MY HAND this the 3RD day of 20 FEBRUARY, 2000. 21 22 MELODY RENEE DeYOUNG, RPR, CSR NO. 3226 Expiration Date: 12-31-00 23 3101 Bee Caves Road Centre II, Suite 220 24 Austin, Texas 78746 (512) 328-5557 25 EBS NO. ________ .0047 1 2 Lee M. Bass, Chairman 3 4 5 Nolan Ryan 6 7 Ernest Angelo, Jr. 8 9 10 John Avila, Jr. 11 12 Carol E. Dinkins, Vice Chair 13 14 15 Alvin L. Henry 16 17 Katharine Armstrong Idsal 18 19 20 Mark E. Watson, Jr. 21 *-*-*-*-* 22 23 24 25