Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission
Finance Committee
Aug. 30, 2000
Commission Hearing RoomTexas Parks & Wildlife Department Headquarters Complex
4200 Smith School Road
Austin, TX 78744
1 7 BE IT REMEMBERED that heretofore on the 8 30th day of August, 2000, there came on to be 9 heard matters under the regulatory authority of 10 the Parks and Wildlife Commission of Texas, in 11 the Commission Hearing Room of the Texas Parks 12 and Wildlife Headquarters Complex, Austin, 13 Texas, beginning at 12:07 p.m to wit: 14 15 APPEARANCES: 16 THE PARKS AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION: FINANCE COMMITTEE: 17 Chair: Dick W. Heath Lee M. Bass 18 Carol E. Dinkins Ernest Angelo, Jr. 19 Nolan Ryan John Avila, Jr. 20 Alvin L. Henry Katharine Armstrong Idsal 21 Mark E. Watson, Jr. 22 THE PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT: Andrew H. Sansom, Executive Director, and other 23 personnel of the Parks and Wildlife Department 24 25 ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 2 1 AUGUST 30, 2000 2 3 CHAIR HEATH: Thank you very much, 4 sir. There's no need for reading of Vernon's 5 Civil Statutes since we've remained in 6 session. You-all have received copies of the 7 committee minutes from the last meeting here in 8 Austin. If -- Are there any comments? If not, 9 I'd move for approval. 10 COMMISSIONER WATSON: So moved. 11 CHAIR HEATH: Second. 12 COMMISSIONER DINKINS: Second. 13 CHAIR HEATH: Motion and a second. 14 All in favor? 15 ALL COMMISSIONERS: Aye. 16 (No response, and motion carries 17 unanimously.) 18 CHAIR HEATH: Not -- Not currently in 19 your books, Committee, are the minutes from the 20 meeting that we held in Dallas. Those we'll 21 get to you before the afternoon is -- is 22 completed. 23 And I'm going to ask people to please 24 respect the Committee's need to hear one 25 another. Thank you. ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 3 1 This being said, we have a briefing on the 2 Chairman's charges. Andy. 3 ITEM NO. 1 - BRIEFING - CHAIRMAN'S CHARGES. 4 MR. SANSOM: Very briefly, 5 Mr. Chairman, we'd signed a contract with 6 MCI WorldCom to serve as a carrier for our 7 license point of sale. Those licenses under 8 the new system will be available in the next 9 license year. On your agenda today and 10 tomorrow is a request for approval of four park 11 transfers. This was directly related to our 12 charges to try to see if we could find partners 13 for properties that would be more appropriately 14 managed by others, and I will just tell you 15 that the preliminary numbers for this year's 16 Big Time Texas Hunts are absolutely great. Our 17 total -- total estimated sales to date are over 18 29,000. This is 41 percent of total sales for 19 1999 with two months left to go. 20 CHAIR HEATH: Wonderful. Thank you, 21 Andy. 22 AGENDA ITEM NO. 2: ACTION - FY2001 OPERATING 23 AND CAPITAL BUDGETS AND TEXAS PARKS AND 24 WILDLIFE INVESTMENT POLICY 25 CHAIR HEATH: The next item is an ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 4 1 action item. It's to discuss the operating and 2 capital budget and the Parks and Wildlife 3 investment policy. 4 Suzy. 5 What we've asked Suzy to do today, 6 Committee, is to give us a brief overview of 7 the operating capital budgets' and our 8 investment policy. At our last meeting I think 9 the majority of us had an opportunity to 10 comment and give input and asked staff to go 11 back and give us some revisions from there. 12 So Suzy, if you would give us, again in 13 the interest of time, give us a brief 14 overview. It will go into more depth tomorrow. 15 MS. WHITTENTON: Okay. Thank you, 16 Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. I'll spend most 17 of the time today talking about budget 18 highlights and then answering the questions 19 that came up and also briefly discussing or 20 giving an update on the appropriations 21 request. 22 This pie chart on cash available by source 23 shows that over half of our funding comes from 24 the Game Fish and Water Safety Account, 25 Account 9, with the State Parks Account as the ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 5 1 next largest source of revenue. We also take 2 into account bonds, local park accounts and 3 general revenue in determining the amount of 4 funds available in setting our budget. 5 This year, as we mentioned at the last 6 meeting, we have less appropriation authority 7 than we have cash, especially in Account 64, 8 the parks account, so we budgeted to the 9 appropriations level, rather than the cash 10 available level. We received requests for -- 11 from the division directors for about 12 $192 million in operating budgets, and after 13 reviewing the needs and appropriations 14 available, the staff's recommending an 15 operating budget of $188 million. 16 Capital budget requests came in at 28 1/2 17 and we're recommending 27 1/2 after looking at 18 what was needed. We also have a recommended 19 grant budget of just over $30 million, most of 20 which is for local parks. 21 All added up, the total budget 22 recommendation is at approximately $245 23 million. This will allow us to budget the full 24 amount of appropriation authority and to 25 address the Legislature's concern about leaving ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 6 1 unexpended balances. We've budgeted as much as 2 possible. 3 I've identified six issues here to briefly 4 discuss an impact on the budget. The first 5 one I already mentioned was the limited 6 appropriations authority. 7 The second item there I thought you needed 8 to be aware of was that we made a tough 9 business decision to close the print shop, 10 agency print shop. We've been directed by the 11 legislature to consider outsourcing as much as 12 possible and we took a look at the comparison 13 of having a print shop in house versus 14 outsourcing printing, and it was real clear 15 after looking at the numbers that the best 16 thing to do for the Department was to close the 17 print shop. 18 The next couple of slides will -- will 19 address outreach and allocated interest on 20 stamp funds in more detail. Other items that 21 impacted the budget were reclassifications. We 22 did some salary studies that we've talked about 23 that resulted in increased personnel costs and 24 that was a big -- had a big impact on this 25 budget. ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 7 1 And lastly there, we -- In past approp -- 2 In past appropriations bills, we had a rider to 3 those appropriations that allowed us -- that 4 we refer to as the entrepreneurial rider that 5 allowed us to budget funds that we -- revenues 6 that we received in excess of what we 7 expected. And we lost that rider at the 8 last -- during the last session and that has 9 had an impact. That would be revenues like 10 concession income that normally we would be 11 able to take it and reappropriate it and we're 12 no longer able to do that, so we have less 13 appropriations to work with. 14 At the -- At the August 10th meeting, we 15 talked about trends in outreach dollars, and so 16 I wanted to show you a chart real briefly that 17 shows the increase in effort that Parks and 18 Wildlife is doing to -- to do more outreach. 19 We -- These numbers are based strictly on the 20 outreach grants and the money that we spend in 21 education. It's increased 22 66 percent since 1999 and then we've included 23 another 9 percent increase between the years 24 2000 and 2001 to do, so it adds up to 25 approximately $3.8 million for the coming ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 8 1 budget year. 2 CHAIR HEATH: Just one comment, Suzy, 3 on -- on out -- Outreach is an important 4 subject certainly from our last -- our last 5 meeting. I just want to reiterate that this -- 6 the amount of money here that we're talking 7 about is directly related to outreach grants in 8 the education budget and outreach is an 9 embedded part of the culture of this 10 Department, and I think what we specifically 11 want to work to look at in the future is 12 outreach as related directly to urban outreach 13 and to bringing customers, if you will, into 14 the fold and the things that we are responsible 15 for as this -- as this Commission. 16 And I've asked the executive director to 17 specifically going forward ask Department heads 18 to begin to break out specific numbers relating 19 to outreach as they can identify it as 20 addressing the building of our customer base 21 and the building of youth involvement, 22 specifically in -- in all of the -- of our 23 endeavors. 24 So historically, as I say, it's been a 25 cultural thing, a part of what we do ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 9 1 automatically going forward, we've asked that 2 specifically we identify outreach either as a 3 budget line, and I'm not sure exactly how we 4 will do that yet, but I just wanted to comment 5 on that, and, Commissioner Henry, particularly 6 for your interest and your efforts in this 7 area. 8 COMMISSIONER HENRY: Thank you, 9 Mr. Chairman. 10 MS. WHITTENTON: We budgeted an 11 additional $250,000 over and above the prev -- 12 the current year for next year for a project 13 where we would have a person in each of the 14 major urban areas and I think we've got Dallas, 15 Houston, and San Antonio. We're going to add 16 three FTEs to coordinate outreach in those 17 areas. 18 We also discussed at the last meeting 19 how -- what method we're using to allocate 20 interest on the stamp funds, and I wanted to 21 briefly update you on that. We are allocating 22 interest in this budget for earnings on 23 interest -- interest earnings on waterfowl, 24 white water, turkey, and trout stamps for 25 this -- for 2001. The amount, it adds up to ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 10 1 about $321,000 our estimate does, and we'll go 2 ahead and budget the estimate up front, but 3 throughout the year what we'll do is we will 4 look at the actual interest earnings and 5 journal entry them into those dedicated -- 6 those dedicate -- into those dedications. 7 The estimate was based on a 5.6 percent 8 interest rate and we multiplied that by the 9 average ending monthly balance in each of those 10 dedications, so that will be -- We'll be doing 11 that throughout the year to make sure that the 12 exact interest earned is -- is moved to the 13 dedications. 14 At the last meeting, we also talked about 15 what our -- our policy was on handling 16 endowment funds, and a policy does exist that 17 allows the interest to be used on the operating 18 budget from endowments except for on 19 site-specific funds where those can only be 20 used for the designated -- for the 21 designation. We also have the option of 22 rolling interest back into the endowment if we 23 decide not to use it, and I just wanted to note 24 that we are not budgeting endowment earnings in 25 this -- interest earnings in the 2001 budget. ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 11 1 And that was all I had on the operating 2 budget. I just wanted to follow up quickly 3 with you on the legislative appropriations 4 process, the request. We submitted the 5 document on August the 18th for the 2002-2003 6 biennium. And just as a reminder, the request 7 was limited to level spending. We weren't 8 allowed to ask for more than we currently have, 9 unless it was put in an exceptional item 10 request. 11 We did identify two exceptional items that 12 we wanted to ask for, ask the Legislature to 13 consider it at legislative session. Those two 14 categories are operating and -- and capital 15 enhancements for state parks, and also for 16 additional authority to spend funds for license 17 buyback programs. 18 The first item for state parks is broken 19 out between operating expense needs and capital 20 repair needs. The first $5 million for 21 operating expense is the difference between the 22 State Auditor's audit recommendations and what 23 we actually received last session in additional 24 operating funds. So that difference is 25 approximately $5 million, which includes 81 1/2 ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 12 1 FTE's. And these are per year numbers. 2 We're also asking for $8 million in 3 facility repair needs per year to address the 4 scheduled repair needs in parks. This slide 5 slows the types of repairs we're working on. 6 The top triangle is the backlog recovery that 7 we're using bond money for, to -- to address 8 the backlog that had built up over time. And 9 the -- The red line is the scheduled repairs 10 that we need to do in order to keep that 11 triangle from going back up in the other 12 direction so that we won't continue to have a 13 backlog. 14 We think that estimate is -- is very 15 conservative, the $8 million, so we're going 16 to -- We expect that to eventually climb to 17 more like $13 to $15 million, but at this time, 18 because we have other bond money we're still 19 trying to use to clean up the backlog, we'll 20 only be asking for $8 million in the next 21 biennium for each year. 22 The other item that we identified is due 23 to increased fees from both salt water stamp 24 fees and from the proposed increase in the 25 shrimp license fees. With the new revenue ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 13 1 that's -- that we expect to come in from those 2 sources, we won't have the appropriation 3 authority to spend them under current levels, 4 so we're just going to ask here not for more 5 funds, but just for the authority to spend the 6 funds that we anticipate earning. 7 Lastly, we've asked for some changes to 8 our appropriation riders. The entrepreneurial 9 rider is what we used to -- It was the old 10 Rider Number 17. We've asked to have that 11 back. That's the most significant change that 12 we're asking for in our -- in our appropriation 13 riders. That allows us to spend the additional 14 revenue that we earn. It encourages 15 revenue-generating activity, so we're going to 16 ask for that back. 17 The others, the state housing is just -- 18 allows for more -- The Department had more 19 flexibility in designating who the state 20 housing is for. Currently the rider says it's 21 for the manager and assistant manager at each 22 state park. Land sale proceeds, we're asking 23 here if we sell any land that's owned by the 24 Department that we would have the authority to 25 spend those funds on additional purchases of ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 14 1 similar -- similar-type purchases. 2 Capital budget I listed here because I 3 just wanted you to know that we've asked to 4 have -- We've asked for vehicles back at the 5 level before we had our vehicle reduction that 6 the Legislature put in place at the last 7 session, so we're asking for the old level of 8 vehicle purchases that we used to have. 9 I have copies of the appropriations 10 request for you if you'd like copies. I also 11 have a handout of the administrator's statement 12 and attached to that is the -- a summary of the 13 request which may be easier to read than the 14 entire document, which I know it's over 15 100 pages. If you'd like copies of those I can 16 get those to you before you leave. 17 And that's all I had today, and tomorrow I 18 will go into more detail on the financial 19 condition of the agency. 20 And I'm happy to take any questions. And 21 that was quick. 22 CHAIR HEATH: Well, it was quick, but 23 I think it was also a summary of our last 24 meeting in -- in Dallas and we'll expect a more 25 complete update for the public tomorrow. Any ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 15 1 questions of Suzy from the Commission? 2 If not, the Chair would entertain a motion 3 to approve this item for consideration in 4 tomorrow's commission meeting. 5 COMMISSIONER WATSON: So moved. 6 CHAIR HEATH: Do I have second? All 7 in favor? 8 COMMISSION MEMBERS: Aye. 9 (No response, and motion carries 10 unanimously.) 11 CHAIR HEATH: Thank you. 12 If you-all would look to your Finance 13 Committee agenda, Item Number 3 are local park 14 grants, primarily other -- other grants. Item 15 Number 4 is an item regarding facility 16 transfers, and Item Number 5 is an item that is 17 potentially, I believe, an item for the consent 18 agenda. 19 It would be the Chair's suggestion that in 20 the light of the time that we postpone Items 3 21 and 4 for tomorrow's agenda and that we discuss 22 these in the context of the full Commission 23 tomorrow. 24 Andy, the Item Number 5 could also be 25 certainly delayed until tomorrow. I think it's ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 16 1 an item that is certainly a candidate for the 2 consent agenda. 3 Mr. Chairman, whether that would be more 4 expedient for tomorrow or today and just do it 5 as a regular item tomorrow or -- 6 MR. SANSOM: That's what I'd do. If 7 you -- 8 CHAIR HEATH: Okay. 9 MR. SANSOM: -- pass it along, I 10 would not put on the consent. 11 CHAIR HEATH: Okay. And I agree with 12 that then. 13 I think Item Number 5 I would then put in 14 the same category as Items 3 and 4. If the 15 Commission agrees, the Committee agrees, we 16 will move all of these items to tomorrow and we 17 would not make Item 5 a consent agenda item. 18 Any discussion on that? If not, then I'd 19 ask for a motion to move those three items to 20 tomorrow's agenda to the full Commission. 21 COMMISSIONER ANGELO: So moved. 22 COMMISSIONER DINKINS: Second. 23 COMMISSIONER HEATH: All in favor? 24 COMMISSION MEMBERS: Aye. 25 CHAIR HEATH: Opposed? ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 17 1 (No response and motion carries 2 unanimously.) 3 CHAIR HEATH: Carries. And with 4 that, we'll close this meeting and go into 5 executive session. 6 Mr. Chairman. 7 CHAIRMAN BASS: I believe we will -- 8 Ms. Dinkins, would you care to open the 9 Conservation Committee meeting, at which point 10 we can then appropriately go into executive 11 session. 12 CHAIR DINKINS: Thank you, 13 Mr. Chairman. Call the Committee to order and 14 we will dispense with considering the minutes 15 of the last meeting since you haven't had a 16 chance to read them. And I don't believe we 17 need to cover the Chairman's charges. 18 So with that, if the Chairman would -- Do 19 you have a statement of the Executive -- 20 CHAIRMAN BASS: I do. I'd like to 21 announce that pursuant to requirement 22 Section 511, Government Code, referred to as 23 the Open Meetings Law, Executive Session will 24 be held at this time for the purpose of 25 consideration of land transactions and ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 18 1 contemplated litigation. 2 At this point, we will adjourn and 3 reconvene here shortly. 4 (Whereupon an Executive Session was 5 held.) 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 19 1 THE STATE OF TEXAS ) COUNTY OF BEXAR ) 2 3 I, TONYA R. THOMPSON, a Certified 4 Court Reporter in and for the State of Texas, 5 do hereby certify that the above and foregoing 6 20 pages constitute a full, true, and correct 7 transcript of the minutes of the Texas Parks 8 and Wildlife Commission on AUGUST 30, 2000, in 9 the Commission Hearing Room of the Texas Parks 10 and Wildlife Headquarters Complex, Austin, 11 Travis County, Texas. 12 I FURTHER CERTIFY that a stenographic 13 record was made by me at the time of the public 14 meeting and said stenographic notes were 15 thereafter reduced to computerized 16 transcription under my supervision and control. 17 WITNESS MY HAND this the day of 18 , 2000. 19 20 21 TONYA R. THOMPSON, Texas CSR 5476 Expiration Date: 12/2000 22 7800 IH-10 West, Suite 100 San Antonio, Texas 78230 23 (210) 377-3027 24 EBS NO.: 25 ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016 . 20 1 2 DICK W. HEATH, CHAIR 3 4 LEE M. BASS 5 CAROL E. DINKINS 6 7 NOLAN RYAN 8 ERNEST ANGELO, JR. 9 10 JOHN AVILA, JR. 11 ALVIN L. HENRY 12 13 KATHARINE ARMSTRONG IDSAL 14 MARK E. WATSON, JR. 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES 7800 IH-10 WEST, SUITE 100, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78230 (210) 377-3027 1-800-969-3027 (210) 344-6016